Could aliens have completely different kind of mathematics what we have?

Kimmo Huosionmaa

I lent the heading for this text for one article, what I have just read. And I'd like to say something about our mathematical system, what bases the thing, that we have ten fingers. That's why our numerical system consists nine numbers, and of course, number zero, what means "empty".  That's why we are calling out the numerical system as the "decimal system", and actually this term is caused, that when our calculator comes to the end of the continuum, we mark this point with numbers one and zero, what are consisting number ten.

That means the "full". The first number and mark for empty means, that the calculator must begin to calculate or fill the second line of numbers. And when the second line of numbers is full, the first number turns two and the last is again empty. This means of course that the second line of numbers is filled. We can continue like this forever because there is no end for lines of numbers.

With computers, we are facing the thing, what is called the "binary system". In that system is two numbers one is full, and zero is open (or empty). This is very remarkable because this binary system is making microprocessor functional. And the thing, what makes very difficult to make the so-called quantum computer, is that ever microprocessor in the world can handle only one operand per case, and this is because it is connected to the binary system. And that numerical system makes impossible to make two or more operands per case.

When we are thinking about other numerical systems, we must first understand that normal decimal system and the binary system's number of numbers are the pairs. This means that we could also make numerical systems, where is not paired number of numbers. The simplest of those systems is where the line of the numbers is three numbers long. Here the end of the numerical line is after number three, and that means that the line of the numbers is filled after number three.

This is the question about communication with hypothetical aliens. If we don't know their numerical system, we cannot open their messages. And if the hypothetical aliens would think a little bit like us, but they would have three fingers they would have the numerical system what consists of three numbers, would that mean, that we could not open that message with the computers, what handle the binary system.

Another thing is if the humanoids would not use normal computers, what means that they would use quantum computers, would the message be so heavily coded, that we ever cannot open it. Maybe they would use the trick, what is known as "linear ( or modular) algebra", and that means that the coding machine would calculate many extreme long numerical calculations at the same time.  And even the most modern computers cannot make that thing. In this case, the computers calculate their own parts of the numerical operand, and they would connect together.

Those operands need very hard calculations. The thing is that everything, what is hard for the normal computer is very easy for the quantum computer. If the hypothetical humanoids would use their personal computers like tablets or laptops, they might think that their message would be easy to open, and maybe they have forgotten normal or binary computers a long time ago. They might want to make that hypothetical message easy to open, but in this scenario, they don't understand, that they are making too hard messages that we could open it. So they forget, that everybody is not on their technical level.

The machine, what has the same intellectual capacity with the human can be real.

Kimmo Huosionmaa

The machine, what has the same intellectual capacity with a human could be built in some laboratory in the world. The problem of creating a machine, what has the same intellectual capacity with humans is basically a very simple thing. Only thing, what is needed is enough microprocessors. When I wrote about the test, where the processes of the human brain were simulated with the supercomputer and one-second process simulation of human brains took 40 minutes, we must know that the reason for that is simple. The supercomputer had too few processors, and think yourself, that you should do the thing, where the human brains use 2,4 billion neurons by using 1,5 million neurons. That would take a very long time, and the problem with making the supercomputer, what has the same brain capacity with humans would just need very much more microprocessors and space, what this system needs is very huge.

And of course the budget would cause problems, but if somebody could by 2,5 billion Pentium processors, that thing could make possible to make the computer, what has the same intelligent level with humans. Here we see, why the physical computer is also an important thing. Another way to solve the problem is to connect several supercomputers together by using the internet, and then there would be enough microprocessors to make the base, what has the same level of intelligence with human brains. When we are thinking about programs of that machine, we would hope, that this thing would not have feelings.

The problem with extreme intelligent machines is, that we need to shut them down if there would be some problems. And if the computer would feel something, it can start to become the thing, that knows about its existence. This means that we would create the cybernetic organism, and if our programs would be too perfect, would it start to act like other organisms and defend itself. This is the need what guarantees the survivability for species. The ability to defend itself is extremely important for the species, because if it's helpless would other species destroy the entire population. And if the computer would have the ability and the need to defend itself, it would, in theory, become dangerous.

But these things are only at the theoretical level, but the computer, what has the same intelligence level with humans could be dangerous if it will start to control some robots. In all scenarios, those robots would not have own willing. And this makes them safe to use, and only thing, what operators must do, when the computer goes mad, is to cut electricity. That would turn off the computer. But there are many things, what is different with a man and computer. The computer cannot create anything new by itself. It cannot create own ideas and produce new things. It has no ability to feel ambition, and it doesn't have a need to rise in the hierarchy.

And the computer doesn't have a need to defend itself. So if the operator feels that the computer have the malfunction, the electricity could cut immediately, and the computer would turn off. This is the major thing also in robotics. If the robot would become useless, the electricity would cut off.  Those machines would be used only when the company needs the workers, and when they are useless, they can be cut off to wait for next order.

Or if the produced merchandise would be changed, the robots would need only next CAD pictures, and they can start to produce the next series of merchandise, and the computers would not need the salary, and they don't need the free time. Only thing, what they need is electricity. And they are always ready to work. This makes the employer independent from the workforce. Robots ever make strikes and nothing hurts them. They would do only the things, what the bosses would want, and they would not use their working days for anything else than just work.

40 silent minutes, what changed the world.

When K-computer simulated human brains were the ordinary day. For that simulation has the group of scientists used many years, and there was nothing dramatic for that process. There were no flames outside of the laboratory and computer center. And during that simulation, nothing dramatic happened. But those seconds might be changed the world by the more influential way than any moon-flight ever changed. The system was the best in business, and it was located in Japan. The mission was to simulate the functions of the brains. The research team was composed of German and Japanese scientists, and it worked by using K-computer, what has 84 944 core processors for that simulation.

It took 40 minutes to simulate the one second of the human brain activity, and the scientists had got the world fastest supercomputer in use when this happened in 2013. The supercomputer was so-called K-computer and that was the fastest and the most powerful computer in that time. This was one of the worlds most remarkable seconds in history, and that was one of the most advanced steps in the research and investigation of the neuroscience. That thing has not seemed very dramatic, and nothing seemed to happen outside of those calculation units,  but there were spent millions of hours of work, millions of calculations have done, and millions of minutes were spent by taking the MEG pictures and collecting other data from the human nervous system.

The spending 40 minutes for one-second simulation doesn't maybe seem a very effective way to use computer time but in the future, that kind of simulation would make possible to create thinking machine". The computer what can learn things, and process the information, what it gets, and make conclusions, what is called thoughts by using that information. But there is far to the human brain capacity. Human brains have the capacity to think abstract things and this ability separates us from other species.

This is the problem with artificial intelligence. We know that feelings have a role in our thinking process, and if we would give feelings and ability to think abstract things to some computer, that thing can transform the thing that wants the power. Feelings and ability to think abstraction gives computers greed for power, and that might cause the situation, what is like from the "Terminator"-movies. The rebellion of the machines is one of the worst nightmares of artificial intelligence.

Sources

https://io9.gizmodo.com/this-computer-took-40-minutes-to-simulate-one-second-of-1043288954

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_computer

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Could artificial intelligence have feelings?

Kimmo Huosionmaa

Below the text is a link to the music video, what would handle the idea, that maybe some civilization would transfer it's individuals to one thinking machine. In this scenario, the individuals would be connected together by using EEG-system, what collects the data from the brain core, and connect the individuals to the computer, where they are staying in the collective reality, what allows the system use the brains as the biocomputer. The reason, why we would do that is, that by using that method, could we create extremely intelligent computers, but the prize of those computers would be tough.


The persons, who are connected with computers are losing their personality, and become part of the collective intelligence, what is the digital version of the Brahman or "Soul of the world" what is the key element of Hinduism religion. This kind of visions is frightening but in the same way interesting. If we would somewhere in the future face that kind of thing, we must think that could that kind of things have feelings? And can we hurt the feelings of that kind of extreme large computer? Or is that kind of thing even the computer?


The living brain tissue makes it alive, and this is the thing, what we must understand when we are making biological computers. In real life, the reason, why we are using computers so much and why they are so sharp is, that they cannot create anything new. Because the computers would not have the ability for abstract thinking, they cannot create any own ideas. And because they don't have own thoughts, they cannot make the rebellion, except if the human doesn't control those machines.


And this is the thing, what makes robots so dangerous. When we are talking about biological computers, we are talking about the situation, where the animals or human brains are connected straight with the computer. The thing is, that computer gives this thing, what we can call as the "cybernetic organism" very great ability to make extremely difficult series of calculations, and human or animal gives the productivity to that artificial hybrid organism, what is the combination with the organic and inorganic things.


That kind of organism can have the ability for creating things, what we ever can think about. But there are risks in that kind of things. If we can connect human brains together, and use computers as the base element for creating that thing functional, we are facing the problem, that we don't know, what would happen if somebody of that group would have the mental problems. Could that thing cause, that the system would become dangerous? Is this the situation, that we would risk the life of every single human on the Earth? This is the thing, what we must think carefully before we are making those extreme thinking machines.

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